Runs Created Ages 22-35
Posted by Raphy on September 11, 2009
Lou Gehrig's name has been in the news a lot lately, so here is a quick Gehrig stat. With the exception of a few games before and after, Gehrig's career essentially ran from 1925 when he was 22 until 1938 when he was 35. According to the runs created formula used by PI, during that time frame Gehrig created 2219 runs. Here are the all-time leader in RC from 22-35.
Cnt Player **RC** From To Ages G PA AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB IBB SO HBP SH SF GDP SB CS BA OBP SLG OPS Positions Teams +----+-----------------+--------+----+----+-----+----+-----+-----+----+----+---+---+---+----+----+---+----+---+---+---+---+----+---+-----+-----+-----+-----+---------+-----------+ 1 Lou Gehrig 2219 1925 1938 22-35 2133 9585 7935 1878 2700 529 162 492 1980 1500 0 781 45 105 0 0 102 101 .340 .448 .634 1.082 *3/976 NYY 2 Babe Ruth 2136 1917 1930 22-35 1821 7963 6273 1682 2194 408 117 558 1680 1547 0 990 36 107 0 0 111 103 .350 .481 .719 1.200 79/183 BOS-NYY 3 Stan Musial 1907 1943 1956 22-35 1992 8902 7670 1485 2614 536 152 341 1391 1145 34 427 40 29 18 168 64 27 .341 .428 .584 1.012 9378/1 STL 4 Jimmie Foxx 1827 1930 1942 22-34 1849 8099 6802 1480 2213 385 99 478 1660 1249 0 1136 9 39 0 66 72 56 .325 .431 .622 1.053 *3/257961 PHA-BOS-TOT 5 Rogers Hornsby 1821 1918 1931 22-35 1825 7970 6840 1393 2515 481 137 281 1392 909 0 550 35 186 0 0 100 62 .368 .444 .601 1.045 *465/3798 STL-NYG-BSN-CHC 6 Barry Bonds 1812 1987 2000 22-35 2030 8657 7043 1512 2065 425 66 478 1357 1482 318 1087 54 2 76 118 435 128 .293 .416 .576 .992 *7/8D9 PIT-SFG 7 Willie Mays 1781 1954 1966 23-35 2002 8598 7555 1520 2383 380 113 518 1414 946 151 897 26 4 67 174 270 82 .315 .390 .601 .991 *8/96735 NYG-SFG 8 Hank Aaron 1778 1956 1969 22-35 2151 9353 8366 1540 2636 450 76 514 1549 876 214 938 19 6 86 220 219 66 .315 .378 .571 .949 *98/345 MLN-ATL 9 Manny Ramirez 1724 1994 2007 22-35 1928 8297 7005 1337 2200 470 17 488 1599 1123 167 1535 85 2 82 210 34 31 .314 .411 .595 1.006 97D CLE-BOS 10 Ty Cobb 1714 1909 1922 22-35 1867 8130 7068 1476 2715 453 211 74 1198 819 0 283 61 182 0 0 698 117 .384 .452 .539 .991 *89/3415 DET 11 Mickey Mantle 1707 1954 1967 22-35 1892 7810 6316 1360 1914 258 56 461 1211 1430 119 1338 12 9 43 94 127 24 .303 .430 .581 1.011 *837/964 NYY 12 Frank Thomas 1687 1990 2003 22-35 1851 8167 6611 1255 2048 428 11 418 1390 1386 159 1077 65 0 105 185 32 21 .310 .428 .568 .996 *3D CHW 13 Jeff Bagwell 1668 1991 2003 23-35 1955 8629 7125 1402 2137 455 30 419 1421 1287 148 1406 119 3 95 207 196 74 .300 .411 .549 .960 *3/D9 HOU 14 Al Simmons 1635 1924 1937 22-35 1898 8365 7694 1371 2631 489 138 277 1654 540 0 623 26 105 0 0 86 62 .342 .387 .549 .936 *78/39 PHA-CHW-DET-WSH 15 Tris Speaker 1619 1910 1923 22-35 2001 8674 7348 1429 2597 576 177 77 1101 1037 0 167 80 209 0 0 364 110 .353 .439 .511 .950 *8/13 BOS-CLE 16 Alex Rodriguez 1618 1998 2009 22-33 1795 8016 6857 1412 2077 341 21 513 1458 944 84 1461 140 4 71 173 242 57 .303 .395 .583 .978 *65/D SEA-TEX-NYY 17 Frank Robinson 1614 1958 1971 22-35 2027 8556 7285 1379 2192 405 57 436 1396 1050 177 1054 144 1 76 204 178 65 .301 .396 .552 .948 *973/85 CIN-BAL 18 Todd Helton 1607 1997 2009 23-35 1792 7674 6439 1209 2113 506 34 324 1194 1114 175 870 49 3 69 159 36 27 .328 .427 .568 .995 *3/79D COL 19 Mel Ott 1581 1931 1944 22-35 2021 8663 7209 1425 2162 358 58 403 1407 1347 0 713 46 61 0 75 67 0 .300 .413 .533 .946 *958/7 NYG 20 Harry Heilmann 1581 1917 1930 22-35 1928 8198 7123 1206 2484 502 139 179 1442 792 0 479 33 250 0 0 103 56 .349 .416 .534 .950 *93/874 DET-CIN 21 Goose Goslin 1574 1923 1936 22-35 2055 9086 8010 1395 2554 466 164 238 1507 875 0 531 49 152 0 0 171 84 .319 .389 .507 .896 *79/85 WSH-TOT-SLB-WSH-DET 22 Paul Waner 1573 1926 1938 23-35 1940 8765 7730 1399 2648 512 180 105 1100 851 0 293 36 148 0 82 100 0 .343 .410 .496 .906 *9/387 PIT 23 Derek Jeter 1566 1996 2009 22-35 2104 9674 8541 1559 2709 433 57 223 1057 870 33 1442 142 77 44 210 300 80 .317 .388 .460 .848 *6/D NYY 24 Chipper Jones 1561 1995 2007 23-35 1887 8139 6895 1294 2115 424 34 386 1299 1151 121 1080 15 3 75 191 134 43 .307 .403 .546 .949 *57/6D9 ATL 25 Jim Thome 1561 1993 2006 22-35 1814 7656 6194 1244 1757 343 21 469 1281 1349 136 1859 53 1 59 103 15 18 .284 .413 .573 .986 *35D CLE-PHI-CHW
Warning: If you're tired of reading about a shortstop whose name rhymes with Eric Peter, please stop here.
Even knowing that an unadjusted counting stat like this favors players in the modern era who have a lot of plate appearances, I was still surprised to see who was 23. If we limit this list to players who played at least 50% of their games at shortstop, Jeter is much closer to #1 than he is to #3. For someone who was "never about the numbers", Jeter's stats are certainly worth noticing.
September 11th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Jeter's a no-brainer for the Hall of Fame, of course, but I find it interesting that Chipper Jones, someone who will probably make the HoF but isn't considered a slam-dunk (and certainly would rank below Jeter in most people's "greatest players" lists), created only 5 fewer runs than Jetes over that span, and he did it in more than 1,500 fewer PA.
September 11th, 2009 at 8:07 pm
Yeah, Jeter's numbers have always shown what a fine hitter he is. Maybe people who don't realize offense can actually be measured beyond HR and RBI think his stats don't show his value. Then they mock the "statheads" who "don't realize" how good Jeter is, because his game goes beyond his pedestrian totals in those categories.
Anyway, I'm still surprised Jeter ranks so high here. He has the 2nd most PA over those ages, just behind Pete Rose.
September 11th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
noticing Manny is the key top ten guy from our era (besdies Bonds).
He is the #1 player of our era. Pujols may top his numbers but he did it for the core 13
September 12th, 2009 at 8:12 pm
I can't find the definition of RC that's used here, can someone post it or direct me to it? (I'm assuming this is the Bill James stat but I think Bill had a couple versions).
Thanks!
September 13th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Believe it is a Bill James formula. I seem to recall it's one of the more complex versions (i.e, not just OBP*TB), but as far as I can tell the current inadequate glossary does not make it clear.