This is our old blog. It hasn't been active since 2011. Please see the link above for our current blog or click the logo above to see all of the great data and content on this site.

Most RBI / fewest runs

Posted by Andy on November 15, 2007

Resident suggestion guru kingturtle asked about which players had the largest differential between RBI and runs in a season. There is no straightforward way to calculate the leaders for this, so I thought I'd break it down by total number of RBI.
First, here are the fewest runs scored in a season of 150+ RBI:

  Cnt Player             **R**  RBI Year Age Tm  Lg  G   PA  AB  H  2B 3B HR  BB IBB  SO HBP  SH  SF GDP  SB CS   BA   OBP   SLG   OPS  Positions
+----+-----------------+-------+---+----+---+---+--+---+---+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+-----+-----+-----+-----+---------+
    1 Miguel Tejada       107   150 2004  28 BAL AL 162 725 653 203 40  2 34  48   6  73  10   0  14  24   4  1  .311  .360  .534  .894 *6
    2 Juan Gonzalez       110   157 1998  28 TEX AL 154 669 606 193 50  2 45  46   9 126   6   0  11  20   2  1  .318  .366  .630  .996 *9D
    3 Joe DiMaggio        110   155 1948  33 NYY AL 153 669 594 190 26 11 39  67   0  30   8   0   0  20   1  1  .320  .396  .598  .994 *8
    4 Joe Medwick         111   154 1937  25 STL NL 156 677 633 237 56 10 31  41   0  50   2   1   0  11   4  0  .374  .414  .641 1.055 *7
    5 Albert Belle        113   152 1998  31 CHW AL 163 706 609 200 48  2 49  81  10  84   1   0  15  17   6  4  .328  .399  .655 1.054 *7/D
    6 Vern Stephens       113   159 1949  28 BOS AL 155 711 610 177 31  2 39 101   0  73   0   0   0  19   2  2  .290  .391  .539  .930 *6
    7 Al Simmons          114   157 1929  27 PHA AL 143 629 581 212 41  9 34  31   0  38   1  16   0   0   4  2  .365  .398  .642 1.040 *7
    8 Andres Galarraga    119   150 1996  35 COL NL 159 691 626 190 39  3 47  40   3 157  17   0   8   6  18  8  .304  .357  .601  .958 *3/5
    9 Tommy Davis         120   153 1962  23 LAD NL 163 711 665 230 27  9 27  33   6  65   2   3   8  17  18  6  .346  .374  .535  .909 *758/9
   10 Hank Greenberg      121   170 1935  24 DET AL 152 710 619 203 46 16 36  87   0  91   0   4   0   0   4  3  .328  .411  .628 1.039 *3
   11 Babe Ruth           121   154 1929  34 NYY AL 135 587 499 172 26  6 46  72   0  60   3  13   0   0   5  3  .345  .430  .697 1.127 *97

It's not as if there are any truly "bad" seasons here. Miguel Tejada scored "only" 107 runs because he played for a team that was pretty much average offensively. Note that none of the teams were bad teams...it's hard to be too bad when you have a guy batting in 150+ runs.

Here are the lowest run totals for guy with RBI between 130 and 149:

Cnt Player             **R**  RBI Year Age Tm  Lg  G   PA  AB  H  2B 3B HR  BB IBB  SO HBP  SH  SF GDP  SB CS   BA   OBP   SLG   OPS  Positions
+----+-----------------+-------+---+----+---+---+--+---+---+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+-----+-----+-----+-----+---------+
    1 Dale Alexander       86   135 1930  27 DET AL 154 660 602 196 33  8 20  42   0  56   2  14   0   0   6  5  .326  .372  .507  .879 *3
    2 Juan Gonzalez        87   131 1997  27 TEX AL 133 579 533 158 24  3 42  33   7 107   3   0  10  12   0  0  .296  .335  .589  .924 *D9
    3 Bill Dickey          87   133 1937  30 NYY AL 140 608 530 176 35  2 29  73   0  22   4   1   0   0   3  2  .332  .417  .570  .987 *2
    4 Juan Gonzalez        89   144 1996  26 TEX AL 134 592 541 170 33  2 47  45  12  82   3   0   3  10   2  0  .314  .368  .643 1.011 *9D
    5 Andre Dawson         90   137 1987  32 CHC NL 153 662 621 178 24  2 49  32   7 103   7   0   2  15  11  3  .287  .328  .568  .896 *9
    6 Hal McRae            91   133 1982  36 KCR AL 159 676 613 189 46  8 27  55   7  61   5   1   2   8   4  4  .308  .369  .542  .911 *D/7
    7 Wally Berger         91   130 1935  29 BSN NL 150 644 589 174 39  4 34  50   0  80   4   1   0  14   3  0  .295  .355  .548  .903 *8
    8 George Kelly         91   136 1924  28 NYG NL 144 627 571 185 37  9 21  38   0  52   5  13   0   0   7  2  .324  .371  .531  .902 *3/8475
    9 Deron Johnson        92   130 1965  26 CIN NL 159 680 616 177 30  7 32  52   9  97   2   0  10  13   0  4  .287  .340  .515  .855 *5
   10 Vinny Castilla       93   131 2004  36 COL NL 148 648 583 158 43  3 35  51   6 113   6   0   8  22   0  0  .271  .332  .535  .867 *5
   11 Joe DiMaggio         93   133 1940  25 NYY AL 132 572 508 179 28  9 31  61   0  30   3   0   0  16   1  2  .352  .425  .626 1.051 *8

Andre Dawson's 1987 season is a classic example of what I expeced to see on this sort of search. A great player who had a phenomenal year while playing for a crap team. Just to give you an idea, with men on over his career, The Hawk batted .283, including 1987 when he batted .310 that year with runners on. Toss in 49 long balls, and that's where all his RBI came from. But his substandard teammates weren't nearly as good at batting him in. Without all those HR, he wouldn't have gotten close to 90 runs scored.

Vinny Castilla's 2004 is a similar story.

Lowest run totals for RBI 120 to 129:

 Cnt Player             **R**  RBI Year Age Tm  Lg  G   PA  AB  H  2B 3B HR  BB IBB  SO HBP  SH  SF GDP  SB CS   BA   OBP   SLG   OPS  Positions
+----+-----------------+-------+---+----+---+---+--+---+---+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+-----+-----+-----+-----+---------+
    1 Rusty Staub          75   121 1978  34 DET AL 162 734 642 175 30  1 24  76   5  35   3   2  11  24   3  1  .273  .347  .435  .782 *D
    2 Buck Freeman         75   121 1902  30 BOS AL 138 608 564 174 38 19 11  32   0   0   6   6   0   0  17  0  .309  .352  .502  .854 *9
    3 Hack Wilson          77   123 1932  32 BRO NL 135 539 481 143 37  5 23  51   0  85   1   6   0   0   2  0  .297  .366  .538  .904 *9/87
    4 Gavvy Cravath        78   128 1913  32 PHI NL 147 594 525 179 34 14 19  55   0  63   3  11   0   0  10  0  .341  .407  .568  .975 *9/87
    5 Mike Lowell          79   120 2007  33 BOS AL 154 653 589 191 37  2 21  53   4  71   3   0   8  19   3  2  .324  .378  .501  .879 *5
    6 Del Ennis            79   125 1953  28 PHI NL 152 643 578 165 22  3 29  57   0  53   5   3   0  14   1  3  .285  .355  .484  .839 *7
    7 Walker Cooper        79   122 1947  32 NYG NL 140 546 515 157 24  8 35  24   0  43   3   4   0  13   2  0  .305  .339  .586  .925 *2
    8 Cecil Fielder        80   124 1992  28 DET AL 155 676 594 145 22  0 35  73   8 151   2   0   7  14   0  0  .244  .325  .458  .783 *3D
    9 Del Ennis            82   120 1955  30 PHI NL 146 623 564 167 24  7 29  46   8  46   2   2   9  14   4  2  .296  .346  .518  .864 *7/9

World Series MVP Mike Lowell makes in on there for his 2007 performance. This in part shows what in important player he was for Boston, particular in view of Manny Ramirez' off year (or decline.)

RBI 110 to 119:

 Cnt Player             **R**  RBI Year Age Tm  Lg  G   PA  AB  H  2B 3B HR  BB IBB  SO HBP  SH  SF GDP  SB CS   BA   OBP   SLG   OPS  Positions
+----+-----------------+-------+---+----+---+---+--+---+---+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+-----+-----+-----+-----+---------+
    1 Gus Bell             59   115 1959  30 CIN NL 148 620 580 170 27  2 19  29   1  44   2   1   8  13   2  3  .293  .325  .445  .770 *9/7
    2 Pedro Guerrero       60   117 1989  33 STL NL 162 665 570 177 42  1 17  79  13  84   4   0  12  17   2  0  .311  .391  .477  .868 *3
    3 Harmon Killebrew     61   119 1971  35 MIN AL 147 624 500 127 19  1 28 114  14  96   0   0  10  21   3  2  .254  .386  .464  .850 *35
    4 Ray Boone            61   116 1955  31 DET AL 135 560 500 142 22  7 20  50   2  49   1   2   7  16   1  1  .284  .346  .476  .822 *5
    5 Luis Olmo            62   110 1945  25 BRO NL 141 595 556 174 27 13 10  36   0  33   1   2   0  11  15  0  .313  .356  .462  .818 *75/84
    6 Ray Jablonski        64   112 1953  26 STL NL 157 640 604 162 23  5 21  34   0  61   1   1   0  15   2  2  .268  .308  .427  .735 *5
    7 Andy Pafko           64   110 1945  24 CHC NL 144 608 534 159 24 12 12  45   0  36   8  21   0   4   5  0  .298  .361  .455  .816 *8
    8 Dave Kingman         68   118 1984  35 OAK AL 147 613 549 147 23  1 35  44   8 119   6   0  14   7   2  1  .268  .321  .505  .826 *D/3
    9 Paul O'Neill         70   110 1999  36 NYY AL 153 675 597 170 39  4 19  66   1  89   2   0  10  24  11  9  .285  .353  .459  .812 *9
   10 Richie Sexson        72   116 1999  24 CLE AL 134 525 479 122 17  7 31  34   0 117   4   0   8  19   3  3  .255  .305  .514  .819 37D/9
   11 Zeke Bonura          72   114 1938  29 WSH AL 137 589 540 156 27  3 22  44   0  29   3   2   0   0   2  2  .289  .346  .472  .818 *3
   12 Larry Gardner        72   118 1920  34 CLE AL 154 683 597 185 31 11  3  53   0  25   1  32   0   0   3 20  .310  .367  .414  .781 *5

Whoa, Gus Bell in 1959 had a ratio of 1.95 RBI for each run scored, which is getting quite small. Funny that Ray Boone, the other most famous three-generation MLB patriach, makes it here too.

And finally, RBI 100 to 109:

  Cnt Player             **R**  RBI Year Age Tm  Lg  G   PA  AB  H  2B 3B HR  BB IBB  SO HBP  SH  SF GDP  SB CS   BA   OBP   SLG   OPS  Positions
+----+-----------------+-------+---+----+---+---+--+---+---+---+---+--+--+--+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+--+-----+-----+-----+-----+---------+
    1 Vic Wertz            45   103 1960  35 BOS AL 131 487 443 125 22  0 19  37   4  54   1   1   5  13   0  2  .282  .335  .460  .795 *3
    2 Danny Tartabull      58   101 1996  33 CHW AL 132 541 472 120 23  3 27  64   4 128   0   0   5  10   1  2  .254  .340  .487  .827 *9D
    3 Ernie Banks          60   106 1969  38 CHC NL 155 629 565 143 19  2 23  42   7 101   7   8   7  15   0  0  .253  .309  .416  .725 *3
    4 Smead Jolley         60   106 1932  30 TOT AL 149 606 573 179 30  5 18  30   0  29   3   0   0   0   1  5  .312  .350  .476  .826 *79
    5 Lee May              61   109 1976  33 BAL AL 148 583 530 137 17  4 25  41   8 104   3   2   7  11   4  1  .258  .312  .447  .759 *3D
    6 Willie Montanez      61   101 1975  27 TOT NL 156 667 602 182 34  2 10  49   8  62   4   2  10  26   6  3  .302  .353  .415  .768 *3
    7 Del Ennis            61   105 1957  32 STL NL 136 537 490 140 24  3 24  37   3  50   1   1   8  22   1  3  .286  .332  .494  .826 *79
    8 Heinie Zimmerman     61   102 1917  30 NYG NL 150 620 585 174 22  9  5  16   0  43   1  18   0   0  13  0  .297  .317  .391  .708 *5/4
    9 Harold Baines        62   103 1999  40 TOT AL 135 486 430 134 18  1 25  54   3  48   0   0   2  16   1  2  .312  .387  .533  .920 *D
   10 Mo Vaughn            63   108 1999  31 ANA AL 139 592 524 147 20  0 33  54   7 127  11   0   3  11   0  0  .281  .358  .508  .866 *3D
   11 Eddie Robinson       64   102 1953  32 PHA AL 156 685 615 152 28  4 22  63   0  56   5   2   0  13   1  2  .247  .322  .413  .735 *3
   12 Del Pratt            64   103 1916  28 SLB AL 158 669 596 159 35 12  5  54   0  56   3  16   0   0  26 17  .267  .331  .391  .722 *4
   13 Mike Lowell          65   100 2001  27 FLA NL 146 614 551 156 37  0 18  43   3  79  10   0  10   9   1  2  .283  .340  .448  .788 *5
   14 George Hendrick      65   104 1982  32 STL NL 136 568 515 145 20  5 19  37   8  80   1   1  14  13   3  2  .282  .323  .450  .773 *9
   15 Lee May              65   105 1973  30 HOU NL 146 590 545 147 24  3 28  34  10 122   2   0   9  13   1  1  .270  .310  .479  .789 *3
   16 John Mayberry        65   100 1972  23 KCR AL 149 588 503 150 24  3 25  78  13  74   3   1   3  12   0  2  .298  .394  .507  .901 *3
   17 Vic Wertz            65   106 1956  31 CLE AL 136 568 481 127 22  0 32  75  10  87   5   0   7   8   0  0  .264  .364  .509  .873 *3
   18 Luke Easter          65   103 1951  35 CLE AL 128 532 486 131 12  5 27  37   0  71   9   0   0  14   0  1  .270  .333  .481  .814 *3
   19 Jim Tabor            65   101 1941  24 BOS AL 126 539 498 139 29  3 16  36   0  48   0   5   0  17  17  9  .279  .328  .446  .774 *5
   20 Ted Simmons          66   103 1974  24 STL NL 152 662 599 163 33  6 20  47   8  35   6   1   9  22   0  0  .272  .327  .447  .774 *23

Well Vic Wertz takes the cake, I think. But there's our man Mike Lowell at #13 again...hmm....

So Mike Lowell has 778 career RBI. I did the same search above, but summed over the career, and searched for players with the fewest runs scored with 750 to 800 career RBI. The cool thing about this search is that it somewhat self-regulates for offensive differences between various eras since we're comparing two stats directly related to run-scoring.

  Cnt Player              **R**   RBI From  To   Ages   G    PA    AB    H   2B  3B  HR  BB  IBB  SO  HBP  SH  SF GDP  SB   CS   BA   OBP   SLG   OPS  Positions Teams
+----+-----------------+--------+----+----+----+-----+----+-----+-----+----+---+---+---+----+---+----+---+---+---+---+----+---+-----+-----+-----+-----+---------+-----------+
    1 Gus Zernial          572    776 1949 1959 26-36 1234  4561  4131 1093 159  22 237  383   3  755  24   3  20 106   15   7  .265  .329  .486  .815 *7/39     CHW-TOT-PHA-KCA-DET
    2 Aramis Ramirez       589    770 1998 2007 20-29 1179  4838  4403 1246 259  15 222  322  32  662  57   3  53 127   11  11  .283  .336  .500  .836 *5/D      PIT-TOT-CHC
    3 Tony Clark           610    789 1995 2007 23-35 1415  4858  4315 1142 224  11 244  485  54 1130  20   0  38 122    6   9  .265  .339  .491  .830 *3/D7     DET-BOS-NYM-NYY-ARI
    4 Duffy Lewis          612    793 1910 1921 22-33 1459  6007  5351 1518 289  68  38  352   0  353  40 264   0   0  113  47  .284  .333  .384  .717 *7/8915   BOS-NYY-WSH
    5 Elston Howard        619    762 1955 1968 26-39 1605  5843  5363 1471 218  50 167  373  82  786  26  29  52 157    9  14  .274  .322  .427  .749 *27/39    NYY-TOT-BOS
    6 Kevin Mitchell       630    760 1984 1998 22-36 1223  4696  4134 1173 224  25 234  491  87  719  27   2  42  89   30  31  .284  .360  .520  .880 *75/D9638 NYM-TOT-SFG-SEA-CIN-CLE-OAK
    7 Mike Lowell          636    778 1998 2007 24-33 1296  5302  4731 1323 325   6 184  454  37  661  46   1  70 123   26  11  .280  .344  .468  .812 *5/4D     NYY-FLA-BOS
    8 Jason Thompson       640    782 1976 1986 21-31 1418  5686  4802 1253 204  12 208  816  70  862   9   5  54 113    8   7  .261  .366  .438  .804 *3/D      DET-TOT-PIT-MON
    9 Lou Piniella         651    766 1964 1984 20-40 1747  6362  5867 1705 305  41 102  368  82  541  31  35  61 209   32  41  .291  .333  .409  .742 *79D/83   BAL-CLE-KCR-NYY
   10 Rico Petrocelli      653    773 1963 1976 20-33 1553  6170  5390 1352 237  22 210  661  61  926  26  36  57 127   10  22  .251  .332  .420  .752 65/D43    BOS

So Lowell's got the 7th fewest runs scored all time for the 750 to 800 RBI range. Interesting that two other current players, Aramis Ramirez and Tony Clark, also make the list. Plus there's Kevin Mitchell...hmm.

Pretty neat eh?

14 Responses to “Most RBI / fewest runs”

  1. ae Says:

    I don't think '87 Dawson's low RS total is entirely due to his teammates. some of the blame has to fall on Dawson himself for posting an OBP 15 points below league average (including a .315 OBP from the 3rd spot in the lineup - that's just not good). those Cubs did have Durham and Moreland each hitting 27 HR, so it's not like Dawson was the only power source on the team.

  2. Andy Says:

    That's fair...a .315 OBP is shameful, especially in a fairly bad lineup where you'd have expected him to get a lot of walks.

    Of course, as we all know, 1987 was a messed up year in terms of offense. It's not like hitting 20 HR was rare. In 1987, 77 players hit 20 HR. In 1986, it was 58, and in 1988 it was 41. 1987 was clearly a fluke year, whether it was due to a funny baseball or what.

  3. vonhayes Says:

    Yeah, you see a fair amount of low OBP sluggers on here, especially on the career list.

    Somewhat related - I read this neat article yesterday on Frank Thomas "clogging up the basepaths". It was about whether or not he scores enough runs relative to his times on base. I wonder if you could do a PI to find the worst or best examples of this.

    Here's the article: http://www.dugoutcentral.com/blog/?p=542

  4. kingturtle Says:

    I came across this idea while looking at Lee May's stats. In 1976 he had 109 RBIs and 61 Runs, for a ratio of 1.79:1. I was curious who had more dramatic ratios. And so the results are in for players with 100 or more RBIs in a season...

    Player, Year, Ratio
    Vic Wertz, 1960, 2.29
    Gus Bell, 1959, 1.95
    Pedro Guerrero, 1989, 1.95
    Ray Boone, 1955, 1.90

    By the way, I think I mentioned this before on this blog. In 1955, Ray Boone led the league in RBIs and was *NOT* in the top ten in Total Bases. As far as I can tell, he's the only one to ever do that.

  5. Andy Says:

    By the way, for the last list in my post, the idea that current players show up a lot is somewhat due to a bias. Any player who played long enough to get more than 800 RBI is no longer eligible for this search. A more exhaustive way to do it would be to search for 750-800 RBIs to start a player's career, and how many runs scored had had through that number of seasons.

  6. vonhayes Says:

    It would be great if the PI could do simple mathematics calculations, so you wouldn't have to scan through lists and manually perform those ratio calculations like kingturtle did. I'm sure it would be a headache for b-r.com to set it up though and not worth the trouble.

  7. Andy Says:

    I've had a bit of dialog with Sean about this. The main thing is that open up the site to processing like that makes it (potentially) susceptible to hacking. One thing I suggested to him was use of a simple drop-down menu system, whereby you could have it calculate STAT OPERATION STAT, for example RBI MINUS RUNS or HR TIMES BA, etc. He might choose to implement that, or another solution, at some point.

  8. FCAlive Says:

    This is mostly an issue of walks and strikeouts.

  9. Andy Says:

    Care to explain further? Given the huge range in OBP seen for the guys above, I don't see how that is the case at all.

  10. OscarAzocar Says:

    kingturtle - your list is missing Killebrew who is second all time

  11. OscarAzocar Says:

    Also just missing the cutoff was Terry Kennedy in 1983 who had 98 RBI and 47 R for a 2.085 ratio.

  12. OscarAzocar Says:

    Here are the career leaders (1900-2006) among players with at least 700 RBI:

    Ernie Lombardi 1.647254576
    Walt Dropo 1.472803347
    Dick Stuart 1.468379447
    Walker Cooper 1.417102967
    Roy Campanella 1.36523126
    Joe Adcock 1.363304982
    Gabby Hartnett 1.359861592
    Vic Wertz 1.358708189
    Gus Zernial 1.356643357
    Cecil Fielder 1.35483871
    Dave Kingman 1.342952275
    Boog Powell 1.335208099
    Willie Horton 1.332187858
    Pinky Whitney 1.331896552
    Tony Armas 1.327361564
    Eddie Robinson 1.324175824
    Juan Gonzalez 1.323279925
    Frank McCormick 1.317174515
    Rudy York 1.315068493
    Deron Johnson 1.307365439

  13. Andy Says:

    It's an interesting question, I think, as to why it seems like so many more players have more career RBI than R, when it fact we know that lifetime those two numbers are almost identical. (If fact, there are more Runs since, for example, a run scoring on a double play counts as a run scored, but there is no RBI.) It's probably just a bias, though, to pay attention to these numbers more for players with bigger power numbers. If we could get a list of the reverse ratio--most runs scored per RBI--we'd see guys like Tim Raines who have way more R....he scored 1571 runs and batted in 980. That's 1.603 ratio, higher than anybody leading the opposing list.

  14. OscarAzocar Says:

    Andy - you're right about the list being populated by speedsters. They and turn of the century guys.

    These are the R/RBI leaders among players with at least 700 Runs scored. I limited it to players who started their careers in 1910 or later. Stats only run through 2006. (With these criteria Raines ends up at 68th)

    Otis Nixon 2.761006289
    Max Bishop 2.548812665
    Vince Coleman 2.453757225
    Don Blasingame 2.373376623
    Luis Castillo 2.371875
    Brett Butler 2.351211073
    Maury Wills 2.329694323
    Richie Ashburn 2.255972696
    Eddie Stanky 2.228021978
    Johnny Pesky 2.146039604
    Sparky Adams 2.14213198
    Jim Gilliam 2.084229391
    George Case 2.082228117
    Ron LeFlore 2.07082153
    Rickey Henderson 2.058295964
    Jack Smith 2.04973822
    Ron Hunt 2.013513514
    Lloyd Waner 2.008361204
    Tony Womack 2.008152174
    Max Flack 2.002557545