Washington Nationals: Stephen Strasburg/Herb Score K Controversy. – Federal Baseball
Posted by Sean Forman on June 25, 2010
Washington Nationals: Stephen Strasburg/Herb Score K Controversy. - Federal Baseball.
Just a note since we've gotten a couple of notes on this. One of the K's in the Score's April 24th game is incorrect and he only had six k's in the game, so while we show 41 k's for Score through four games it appears the correct total is 40.
We've alerted retrosheet and they will make the change in their files and the site should be updated sometime over the next week or two.
Sorry for the error.
June 25th, 2010 at 3:20 pm
I am getting a little annoyed by all these contrived "records" that are being dug up.
most K's in a debut, fine. Most K's in 1st 2 games, pushing the envelope. Most K's in 4 games ridiculous.
Some records are worth noting, others aren't. Three years from now, are we going to worry about "Most strikeouts in 1st 117 starts"; Most strikeouts by a rookie on a Tuesday; Most strikeouts in games televised by MASN, etc.
Just because you CAN count it; doesn't necessarily mean that you should.
June 25th, 2010 at 3:35 pm
Are you also annoyed by the numbers being made accurate? Without the attention of this contrived record, who knows when this mistake would have been noticed?
If you don't care, don't pay attention to it. There's a couple zillion pieces of information floating around the world and I'm sure you manage to filter out the ones in which you're not interested without them all annoying you.
June 25th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
No Johnny that part doesn't annoy me. Not to take anything away from Strasburg, some of these records are getting silly.
There is no significance to "4 games" other than as a contrived standard. This became a pet peeve of mine a few years ago when I heard that Chase Utley had tied the record for longest hitting streak by a Left-Hand Hitting 2B. It may be accurate, but really who cares.
June 25th, 2010 at 4:12 pm
I thought for a while about posting a 'most Ks in first 4 starts' post and then decided it wasn't interesting enough...I tend to agree with S.B. on this one.
June 25th, 2010 at 4:23 pm
I agree completely with noting Strasburg's most strikeouts in x games progress being a bit of a reach. After every start I keep waiting for them *not* to mention it but they do. But then again that's baseball, I guess. I always liked to tell people who weren't huge baseball fans that baseball, very much in contrast with other sports, is the only sport where you'll hear a broadcaster mention ridiculous stats like "player x is hitting .357 leading off the inning in day games following a night game on the road against left-handed starters in odd-numbered years when he starts in a corner outfield position."
Someone should start a pool on when this stat will be laid to rest. 11 starts? 14?
June 25th, 2010 at 6:46 pm
Spartan Bill has a point; the Strasburg watch is getting a bit overdone. Still, there is no doubt that this kid is burnon' them up so far.
June 25th, 2010 at 7:38 pm
At some point, the Strasburg watch -- if he keeps pace -- will switch to even-numbered strikeout plateaus. Like 100 K's, he won't be the youngest, but he might do it in the fewest innings or games.
They would tire of that eventually, too. The best example is probably A-Rod. He's been the youngest person to hit every career-number HR for over nine years now (since career #200-something). The only time you hear about that any more is when he hits one of the century marks.
June 25th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
To Spartan Bill,
Did you know Nolan Ryan has the most Ks through his first 807 games?
June 25th, 2010 at 9:30 pm
Awesome! Whose record did he break????
June 25th, 2010 at 10:10 pm
Strasburg's also gone the first 4 starts of his career without throwing 100 pitches, in spite of giving up 2,1,1, and 1 runs, respectively. Just sayin'.
June 25th, 2010 at 10:56 pm
This list is not complete, nor does it prove anything. I just, after much fanfare and ballyhoo, decided to make it. There are some Hall of Famers on the list, some CY Young Winners, some mediocre pitchers.
But the first number is the number of wins they had at 25 years old. The second number is their career total. It makes you wonder what some of their career numbers would have been if they had a younger start, then again... maybe starting late is what led to their longevity. I dunno, just a list.
1. Spahn -------8 ---363
2. Johnson ----10----303
3. Niekro –----- 0----318
4. Perry -------14----314
5. Plank ------17----326
6. Wells – -----7-----239
7. Quinn –---- 9 -----247
8. Grove –----10-----300
9. Vance –-----0-----197
10. Hough –--- 4-----216
11. Faber –----10----254
12. Hubbel –---10----253
13. Rogers –---15----219
14. Mcginty –-- 0-----246
15. Brown –----0----239
16. Luque -–--- 0----194
17. Curt Davis –- 0----158
18. Radbourn –--0----309
19. Moyer-----18----266
20. Schilling ---18----216
21. Coveleski---2-----215
22. Heirshieser –11-----204
23. Guidry -----0 -----170